Post by Sylocat on May 3, 2014 20:38:42 GMT 1
[13:51] <Froborr> Hullo.
[13:51] <Sylocat> 'Ello
[13:52] <mere_oblivion> Hullo indeed.
[13:52] <Froborr> How goes?
[13:53] <Sylocat> Pretty good... just got back from rehearsing Shaw's "Man of Destiny"
[13:53] <Sylocat> (and later this evening I'm off to view a production of Pygmalion, for the second time)
[13:53] <Sylocat> How goes things with you?
[13:54] <Froborr> Not bad.
[13:55] <Sylocat> Ah, timer dinged, pizza's done just in time
[13:55] <Froborr> Cool cool.
[13:57] <Sylocat> 3 minutes
[13:58] <Sylocat> So, today, we're finally seeing the "Equestria Games" that have been built up over the season, kind of like the gala
[13:59] <Froborr> Yeah. I'm not enthused, given how awful Games Ponies Play was.
[13:59] <Sylocat> Polsky's gotten much better this season though
[13:59] <Froborr> Plus I've heard rumors this is a Spike episode, and I'm as ready to call a moratorium on those as I was on Apple family eps last season.
[13:59] <Froborr> Less than one minute
[13:59] <Sylocat> Yep
[14:00] <Froborr> Start
[14:00] <Sylocat> Click
[14:00] <Sylocat> One-wing push-ups
[14:00] <Froborr> Pleasedon'tbeaSpikeepisodePleasedon'tbeaSpikeepisodePleasedon'tbeaSpikeepisodePleasedon'tbeaSpikeepisode
[14:00] <Froborr> I could go for an ensemble ep or an RD ep.
[14:01] <Sylocat> Well, I think that's at least a decent B plot
[14:01] <Froborr> This is going to be an Archer and the Fish episode, isn't it?
[14:01] <Sylocat> Ahahah... a joke about trophies just for showing up, inverted
[14:01] <Froborr> "Let's try to win lots of stuff too, okay?" lol
[14:01] <Sylocat> (remind me to ask you what Archer and the Fish is after the episode is over)
[14:02] <Froborr> Sure.
[14:02] <Sylocat> Of course Rainbow Dash had to be Rainbow Dash
[14:02] <mere_oblivion> Froborr, what's Archer & the Fish?
[14:02] <Sylocat> Great minds think alike
[14:02] <Froborr> Credits ended, I'll explain after the ep.
[14:02] <Froborr> No don't focus on Spike NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[14:02] <Sylocat> To be fair, the Spike/Celestia comic was the best issue of the Friends Forever series
[14:03] <Froborr> Yes, arrest him for sucking!
[14:03] <Froborr> Sadly, he is probably being honored or crap.
[14:03] <Froborr> Ugggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[14:03] <Sylocat> Oh yikes, what have they got him doing?
[14:03] <Froborr> No, his ego needs no help!
[14:03] <Froborr> I like how the crystal heart was spinning.
[14:04] <Sylocat> Oh noooooooo
[14:04] <Froborr> ...Oh, right, nobody knows that the REAL last time he was there he was desperately trying to salvage a massive scam gone south.
[14:04] <mere_oblivion> "A Tpwn Called Spike"?
[14:04] <mere_oblivion> Or "Town," maybe?
[14:04] <Froborr> Okay, yes, the Firefly reference could be awesome.
[14:05] <Froborr> I like how the Prince of the Crystal Empire is just a glorified announcer/coach.
[14:05] <Sylocat> Oh boy, Harshwhinny again
[14:05] <Froborr> Okay, I like Harshwinny. HOpefully she'll smack some sense into Spike.
[14:05] <Sylocat> "Mr. The Dragon!"
[14:05] <Froborr> Stage fright ep? Didn't we already have that with RD and Rarity?
[14:05] <Froborr> Okay, yes, lol for "Mr. the Dragon."
[14:06] <Sylocat> "Yay" callback
[14:06] <Froborr> Still no talking for Ms. Hooves.
[14:06] <Sylocat> Oh, she's never gonna talk again
[14:06] <Froborr> Good.
[14:06] <Sylocat> One thing I've noticed this season is that they've been ostensibly repeating morals from past seasons, as a "platform" to have new ones in the B plot
[14:07] <Froborr> Point.
[14:07] <Sylocat> Okay, this is less stage fright and more Gene Starwind in the first few episodes of Outlaw Star
[14:07] <Froborr> "Equestria, we have a problem" was clumsily shoehorned in.
[14:08] <Sylocat> Oh yikes, a lighter click
[14:08] <Froborr> So it's more performance anxiety than stage fright. And I DO like the gag of Spike the flick lighter.
[14:08] <Sylocat> Like in (the original story of) The Nutcracker
[14:08] <Froborr> Biro, that's what those are called! Knew it wasn't Spiro.
[14:08] <Froborr> Haha Spike, you're a failure.
[14:09] <Froborr> I really like the new sister relationship Scoots and RD have.
[14:09] <Froborr> I am a sucker for found families.
[14:09] <Sylocat> Eeyup
[14:09] <Sylocat> "Sup"
[14:09] <Froborr> Sunglasses=instant laugh.
[14:09] <Sylocat> Stored in hammerspace, awesome
[14:09] <Froborr> *facepalm*
[14:09] <Sylocat> Oh yikes
[14:10] <Sylocat> Well, we've all had that happen, even with stuff we could actually DO
[14:11] <Sylocat> What? She just TELLS him?
[14:11] <Sylocat> ...Wow
[14:11] <Froborr> Wow, that shortcircuited that plot.
[14:11] <Sylocat> ...Wait, that voice does not match that character model
[14:11] <Sylocat> (or maybe that's the point)
[14:11] <Froborr> Okay, so we seem to now be shifting into "it's okay to be imperfect"
[14:12] <Froborr> Omigod its Pony TSA again.
[14:12] <Sylocat> So maybe it is an ensemble piece, like "The Best Night Ever," which had also been built up to all season
[14:12] <Sylocat> I thought the TSA was just one of Discord's creations for his musical number
[14:12] <Froborr> SO DID I!
[14:12] <Froborr> Apparently not.
[14:12] <Froborr> Or they were, but he never bother to unmake them.
[14:13] <Froborr> NO SPIKE DO NOT PUT ON A CONCERT
[14:13] <Sylocat> Oh yikes, "rock concert," foreshadowing for Rainbow Rocks... oh crud, he's actually going to do it
[14:14] <Froborr> Watch this actually be right.
[14:14] <Froborr> ....or not.
[14:14] <mere_oblivion> If only most anthems weren't actually this terrible.
[14:14] <Froborr> Of course Pinkie likes it.
[14:15] <Froborr> Okay, this is starting to get actually funny because it just keeps going.
[14:15] <Sylocat> And I've heard much worse renditions of national anthems before sporting events
[14:15] <Froborr> Interestingly, my normal antipathy toward cringe comedy isn't triggering. I apparently have no empathy for Spike left.
[14:16] <Froborr> Okay, so are the games pegasus only?
[14:16] <Sylocat> Well, Unicorns aren't allowed
[14:16] <Sylocat> So there's already a racial elements
[14:16] <Froborr> ...They could have, like, telekinetic weightlifting or something.
[14:17] <Sylocat> Good point
[14:17] <Froborr> I mean, it makes sense with the whole Greco-Roman theme the pegasi have going, but then this isn't really an Equestian event, it's a pegasus event.
[14:17] <Sylocat> Oh no... what is she going to get him for?
[14:17] <Froborr> Interesting.
[14:17] <Froborr> Ice Archery is apparently a speed event?
[14:17] <Sylocat> Wait, I saw one Earth pony in the archery lineup
[14:18] <Sylocat> See? The brown one
[14:18] <Froborr> Huh, you're right.
[14:18] <Sylocat> Oh yikes, he's wearing That Outfit
[14:18] <Froborr> I want to know about when Twilight let everybody down.
[14:18] <Froborr> ....Um.
[14:18] <Froborr> Wow, that is one potent arrow.
[14:18] <Sylocat> Maybe she's talking about Lesson Zero? Or maybe she's exaggerating her own OH MY GOD WHAT'S GOING ON
[14:18] <Froborr> And the princesses do nothing.
[14:18] <Froborr> Oh yeah--good point, Lesson Zero.
[14:19] <Sylocat> Well what can they do, since their magic is sealed too
[14:19] <Froborr> Is it?
[14:19] <Froborr> That's pretty absurdly powerful and dangerous, sealing the powers of the princesses.
[14:19] <Sylocat> We saw Twilight walk through that device too, right?
[14:19] <Froborr> ...I don't recall that?
[14:19] <Sylocat> Huh
[14:19] <Sylocat> Oh, so THAT'S the moral here
[14:20] <Froborr> I'll have to go back after the show and see.
[14:20] <Froborr> Twilight technically can turn back time.
[14:20] <Froborr> It just doesn't accomplish anything.
[14:20] <Sylocat> ...Okay, this one really, really hits home for me
[14:20] <Froborr> Yeah, "it's okay to be imperfect and you have to learn to forgive yourself."
[14:21] <Sylocat> Only second place, though
[14:21] <Sylocat> Well... I liked it
[14:21] <Froborr> They apparently were doign straight medal count instead of the level of medal?
[14:22] <Sylocat> I'll have to look again
[14:22] <Froborr> Yeah, that was actually pretty good. Spike wasn't a jerk, wasn't rewarded for being a jerk, and had a legitimate problem that wasn't his own fault.
[14:23] <Froborr> Nope, Lyra and Rarity.
[14:23] <Froborr> Those are the only unicorns we see go through.
[14:23] <Sylocat> Huh. I coulda sworn... oh well
[14:23] <Sylocat> Oh yes, what's Archer and the Fish?
[14:23] <Froborr> Anyway, it was not an Archer ad the Fish episode.
[14:23] <Froborr> Heh, great minds again.
[14:24] <Sylocat> indeed indeed
[14:24] <Froborr> The Archer and the Fish is a folktale. There was an archery contest between the three greatest archers in the land.
[14:24] <Sylocat> Huh... never heard that one
[14:24] <Froborr> A tiny wooden fish was hung in a tree deep in the forest, and the archers had to hit it from the fringes of the forest.
[14:25] <Froborr> The first archer missed. The second hit the tree it was hanging in. The third hit the fish's tail, and won.
[14:25] <Froborr> Afterwards they all went for a drink (on the third archer, since they were all good sports and had agreed to that beforehand--and besides, he just won a purse of gold). And the conversation naturally turned to them asking the third archer how he did.
[14:26] <Froborr> "Well," he asked in return, "what were you aiming for?"
[14:26] <Froborr> "The fish, of course!" said the first archer.
[14:26] <Froborr> "The fish's head," said the second.
[14:26] <Froborr> "Ah," said the third archer dryly. "I was aiming for its eye."
[14:27] <Froborr> You can't do better than you strive for, basically.
[14:27] <Sylocat> Ah, I see
[14:27] <Froborr> Anyway, I'm going to copy this up.
[14:28] <Froborr> For a Spike episode in the setting and with the subject matter and guest star of "Games Ponies Play," that was really good!
[14:28] <Froborr> Anybody else have a final thought they want to throw in?
[14:28] <Sylocat> Hmm
[14:29] <Sylocat> I'll probably think of something witty and insightful later and have to post it in the blog comments
[14:29] <mere_oblivion> Today I learned that even a Spike episode can be kinda cool.
[14:29] <Sylocat> Mere_Oblivion?
[14:29] <Sylocat> Oh, there it is
[14:32] <mere_oblivion> And now . . . on to the Double-Episode Finale, in all its potential glory!
[13:51] <Sylocat> 'Ello
[13:52] <mere_oblivion> Hullo indeed.
[13:52] <Froborr> How goes?
[13:53] <Sylocat> Pretty good... just got back from rehearsing Shaw's "Man of Destiny"
[13:53] <Sylocat> (and later this evening I'm off to view a production of Pygmalion, for the second time)
[13:53] <Sylocat> How goes things with you?
[13:54] <Froborr> Not bad.
[13:55] <Sylocat> Ah, timer dinged, pizza's done just in time
[13:55] <Froborr> Cool cool.
[13:57] <Sylocat> 3 minutes
[13:58] <Sylocat> So, today, we're finally seeing the "Equestria Games" that have been built up over the season, kind of like the gala
[13:59] <Froborr> Yeah. I'm not enthused, given how awful Games Ponies Play was.
[13:59] <Sylocat> Polsky's gotten much better this season though
[13:59] <Froborr> Plus I've heard rumors this is a Spike episode, and I'm as ready to call a moratorium on those as I was on Apple family eps last season.
[13:59] <Froborr> Less than one minute
[13:59] <Sylocat> Yep
[14:00] <Froborr> Start
[14:00] <Sylocat> Click
[14:00] <Sylocat> One-wing push-ups
[14:00] <Froborr> Pleasedon'tbeaSpikeepisodePleasedon'tbeaSpikeepisodePleasedon'tbeaSpikeepisodePleasedon'tbeaSpikeepisode
[14:00] <Froborr> I could go for an ensemble ep or an RD ep.
[14:01] <Sylocat> Well, I think that's at least a decent B plot
[14:01] <Froborr> This is going to be an Archer and the Fish episode, isn't it?
[14:01] <Sylocat> Ahahah... a joke about trophies just for showing up, inverted
[14:01] <Froborr> "Let's try to win lots of stuff too, okay?" lol
[14:01] <Sylocat> (remind me to ask you what Archer and the Fish is after the episode is over)
[14:02] <Froborr> Sure.
[14:02] <Sylocat> Of course Rainbow Dash had to be Rainbow Dash
[14:02] <mere_oblivion> Froborr, what's Archer & the Fish?
[14:02] <Sylocat> Great minds think alike
[14:02] <Froborr> Credits ended, I'll explain after the ep.
[14:02] <Froborr> No don't focus on Spike NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[14:02] <Sylocat> To be fair, the Spike/Celestia comic was the best issue of the Friends Forever series
[14:03] <Froborr> Yes, arrest him for sucking!
[14:03] <Froborr> Sadly, he is probably being honored or crap.
[14:03] <Froborr> Ugggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[14:03] <Sylocat> Oh yikes, what have they got him doing?
[14:03] <Froborr> No, his ego needs no help!
[14:03] <Froborr> I like how the crystal heart was spinning.
[14:04] <Sylocat> Oh noooooooo
[14:04] <Froborr> ...Oh, right, nobody knows that the REAL last time he was there he was desperately trying to salvage a massive scam gone south.
[14:04] <mere_oblivion> "A Tpwn Called Spike"?
[14:04] <mere_oblivion> Or "Town," maybe?
[14:04] <Froborr> Okay, yes, the Firefly reference could be awesome.
[14:05] <Froborr> I like how the Prince of the Crystal Empire is just a glorified announcer/coach.
[14:05] <Sylocat> Oh boy, Harshwhinny again
[14:05] <Froborr> Okay, I like Harshwinny. HOpefully she'll smack some sense into Spike.
[14:05] <Sylocat> "Mr. The Dragon!"
[14:05] <Froborr> Stage fright ep? Didn't we already have that with RD and Rarity?
[14:05] <Froborr> Okay, yes, lol for "Mr. the Dragon."
[14:06] <Sylocat> "Yay" callback
[14:06] <Froborr> Still no talking for Ms. Hooves.
[14:06] <Sylocat> Oh, she's never gonna talk again
[14:06] <Froborr> Good.
[14:06] <Sylocat> One thing I've noticed this season is that they've been ostensibly repeating morals from past seasons, as a "platform" to have new ones in the B plot
[14:07] <Froborr> Point.
[14:07] <Sylocat> Okay, this is less stage fright and more Gene Starwind in the first few episodes of Outlaw Star
[14:07] <Froborr> "Equestria, we have a problem" was clumsily shoehorned in.
[14:08] <Sylocat> Oh yikes, a lighter click
[14:08] <Froborr> So it's more performance anxiety than stage fright. And I DO like the gag of Spike the flick lighter.
[14:08] <Sylocat> Like in (the original story of) The Nutcracker
[14:08] <Froborr> Biro, that's what those are called! Knew it wasn't Spiro.
[14:08] <Froborr> Haha Spike, you're a failure.
[14:09] <Froborr> I really like the new sister relationship Scoots and RD have.
[14:09] <Froborr> I am a sucker for found families.
[14:09] <Sylocat> Eeyup
[14:09] <Sylocat> "Sup"
[14:09] <Froborr> Sunglasses=instant laugh.
[14:09] <Sylocat> Stored in hammerspace, awesome
[14:09] <Froborr> *facepalm*
[14:09] <Sylocat> Oh yikes
[14:10] <Sylocat> Well, we've all had that happen, even with stuff we could actually DO
[14:11] <Sylocat> What? She just TELLS him?
[14:11] <Sylocat> ...Wow
[14:11] <Froborr> Wow, that shortcircuited that plot.
[14:11] <Sylocat> ...Wait, that voice does not match that character model
[14:11] <Sylocat> (or maybe that's the point)
[14:11] <Froborr> Okay, so we seem to now be shifting into "it's okay to be imperfect"
[14:12] <Froborr> Omigod its Pony TSA again.
[14:12] <Sylocat> So maybe it is an ensemble piece, like "The Best Night Ever," which had also been built up to all season
[14:12] <Sylocat> I thought the TSA was just one of Discord's creations for his musical number
[14:12] <Froborr> SO DID I!
[14:12] <Froborr> Apparently not.
[14:12] <Froborr> Or they were, but he never bother to unmake them.
[14:13] <Froborr> NO SPIKE DO NOT PUT ON A CONCERT
[14:13] <Sylocat> Oh yikes, "rock concert," foreshadowing for Rainbow Rocks... oh crud, he's actually going to do it
[14:14] <Froborr> Watch this actually be right.
[14:14] <Froborr> ....or not.
[14:14] <mere_oblivion> If only most anthems weren't actually this terrible.
[14:14] <Froborr> Of course Pinkie likes it.
[14:15] <Froborr> Okay, this is starting to get actually funny because it just keeps going.
[14:15] <Sylocat> And I've heard much worse renditions of national anthems before sporting events
[14:15] <Froborr> Interestingly, my normal antipathy toward cringe comedy isn't triggering. I apparently have no empathy for Spike left.
[14:16] <Froborr> Okay, so are the games pegasus only?
[14:16] <Sylocat> Well, Unicorns aren't allowed
[14:16] <Sylocat> So there's already a racial elements
[14:16] <Froborr> ...They could have, like, telekinetic weightlifting or something.
[14:17] <Sylocat> Good point
[14:17] <Froborr> I mean, it makes sense with the whole Greco-Roman theme the pegasi have going, but then this isn't really an Equestian event, it's a pegasus event.
[14:17] <Sylocat> Oh no... what is she going to get him for?
[14:17] <Froborr> Interesting.
[14:17] <Froborr> Ice Archery is apparently a speed event?
[14:17] <Sylocat> Wait, I saw one Earth pony in the archery lineup
[14:18] <Sylocat> See? The brown one
[14:18] <Froborr> Huh, you're right.
[14:18] <Sylocat> Oh yikes, he's wearing That Outfit
[14:18] <Froborr> I want to know about when Twilight let everybody down.
[14:18] <Froborr> ....Um.
[14:18] <Froborr> Wow, that is one potent arrow.
[14:18] <Sylocat> Maybe she's talking about Lesson Zero? Or maybe she's exaggerating her own OH MY GOD WHAT'S GOING ON
[14:18] <Froborr> And the princesses do nothing.
[14:18] <Froborr> Oh yeah--good point, Lesson Zero.
[14:19] <Sylocat> Well what can they do, since their magic is sealed too
[14:19] <Froborr> Is it?
[14:19] <Froborr> That's pretty absurdly powerful and dangerous, sealing the powers of the princesses.
[14:19] <Sylocat> We saw Twilight walk through that device too, right?
[14:19] <Froborr> ...I don't recall that?
[14:19] <Sylocat> Huh
[14:19] <Sylocat> Oh, so THAT'S the moral here
[14:20] <Froborr> I'll have to go back after the show and see.
[14:20] <Froborr> Twilight technically can turn back time.
[14:20] <Froborr> It just doesn't accomplish anything.
[14:20] <Sylocat> ...Okay, this one really, really hits home for me
[14:20] <Froborr> Yeah, "it's okay to be imperfect and you have to learn to forgive yourself."
[14:21] <Sylocat> Only second place, though
[14:21] <Sylocat> Well... I liked it
[14:21] <Froborr> They apparently were doign straight medal count instead of the level of medal?
[14:22] <Sylocat> I'll have to look again
[14:22] <Froborr> Yeah, that was actually pretty good. Spike wasn't a jerk, wasn't rewarded for being a jerk, and had a legitimate problem that wasn't his own fault.
[14:23] <Froborr> Nope, Lyra and Rarity.
[14:23] <Froborr> Those are the only unicorns we see go through.
[14:23] <Sylocat> Huh. I coulda sworn... oh well
[14:23] <Sylocat> Oh yes, what's Archer and the Fish?
[14:23] <Froborr> Anyway, it was not an Archer ad the Fish episode.
[14:23] <Froborr> Heh, great minds again.
[14:24] <Sylocat> indeed indeed
[14:24] <Froborr> The Archer and the Fish is a folktale. There was an archery contest between the three greatest archers in the land.
[14:24] <Sylocat> Huh... never heard that one
[14:24] <Froborr> A tiny wooden fish was hung in a tree deep in the forest, and the archers had to hit it from the fringes of the forest.
[14:25] <Froborr> The first archer missed. The second hit the tree it was hanging in. The third hit the fish's tail, and won.
[14:25] <Froborr> Afterwards they all went for a drink (on the third archer, since they were all good sports and had agreed to that beforehand--and besides, he just won a purse of gold). And the conversation naturally turned to them asking the third archer how he did.
[14:26] <Froborr> "Well," he asked in return, "what were you aiming for?"
[14:26] <Froborr> "The fish, of course!" said the first archer.
[14:26] <Froborr> "The fish's head," said the second.
[14:26] <Froborr> "Ah," said the third archer dryly. "I was aiming for its eye."
[14:27] <Froborr> You can't do better than you strive for, basically.
[14:27] <Sylocat> Ah, I see
[14:27] <Froborr> Anyway, I'm going to copy this up.
[14:28] <Froborr> For a Spike episode in the setting and with the subject matter and guest star of "Games Ponies Play," that was really good!
[14:28] <Froborr> Anybody else have a final thought they want to throw in?
[14:28] <Sylocat> Hmm
[14:29] <Sylocat> I'll probably think of something witty and insightful later and have to post it in the blog comments
[14:29] <mere_oblivion> Today I learned that even a Spike episode can be kinda cool.
[14:29] <Sylocat> Mere_Oblivion?
[14:29] <Sylocat> Oh, there it is
[14:32] <mere_oblivion> And now . . . on to the Double-Episode Finale, in all its potential glory!